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re: ding dong!  Haxxen  8 Apr 13 3:32PM Thread Closed

Good point rask, which is why I am asking you to educate me on what I may have missed.  What makes her a witch to you?

> as for her being an 'excellent woman'? i recall that Adolf Hitler
> was Time Person of the Year in 1938 and Stalin was Time Person of the
> Year in 1939 and again in 1942.
>
> what makes somebody 'excellent' is indeed a matter of opinion.
>

re: ding dong!  raskolniikov  8 Apr 13 3:57PM Thread Closed

Haxxen. It is late here in england and I have to get up early tommy and be in tip top shape and to answer your question requires an answer that I must go into in full but which I dont possess the time for at the moment. The crux of the matter is that I am a socialist and she was a capitalist.  I will reply in full at a later opportunity. Regards.

re: ding dong!  Haxxen  8 Apr 13 4:12PM Thread Closed

I look forward to it.  I'd like to think of myself as a kinder totalitarian.  Capitalism is too selfish, and the problem with socialism is that it requires human ego to uphold it, which also leads to ego.  A kinder dictatorship might be nice.  maybe I mean anarchy.  But I think, that would have it's flaws as well.  Doesn't everything?  Looking forward to your thoughts.

> Haxxen. It is late here in england and I have to get up early tommy
> and be in tip top shape and to answer your question requires an answer
> that I must go into in full but which I dont possess the time for at
> the moment. The crux of the matter is that I am a socialist and she
> was a capitalist.  I will reply in full at a later opportunity.
> Regards.

re: ding dong!  jenn  8 Apr 13 5:00PM Thread Closed

> Admittedly I am not from England and so my knowledge of its politics
> are limited, but I was/am of the opinion that Ms. Thatcher was an
> excellent woman.  Yes, she made some mistakes (as we all do) but she
> was a trailblazer for women, and also, unshakable in her love for the
> people of her country.  Why does her death make you happy
> Raskolniikov?


Sorry to correct you, Haxx .. but Thatcher was in no way a "trail blazer" for women's rights. Not in any sense of those words combined did Thatcher further the cause of women in the UK.

It could be said that the evolution of feminism allowed the circumstances to be right for a woman to be elected as Prime Minister, but Thatcher actually decreased the amount of women in her Parliamentary party and also cut funding for social groups involved in Domestic Abuse and Rape cases.

It is through a rose-tinted filter, I am afraid, that you have been fed this image of Thatcher as an "excellent woman" .. but if you wish to know more about her .. please consider reading up on her stance on Apartheid in South Africa and her Governments involvement in training Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in Cambodia that killed over 2 million of its own people.

Here is a link to that last piece - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34539.htm

There is much that could be gained by reading up on her policies towards the Catholic Irish in Northern Ireland too.

Thatcher was a small minded, little island Right Wing racist and bigot who is viewed now posthumously with unearned affection. The best place for her is in the ground and forgotten, but as we currently under the thrall of yet another Right Wing elitist collection of rich boys running the country, Thatcher will undoubtedly be hailed as their greatest leader since Churchill.... who was also a racist and bigot.

Her death gives me no pleasure as now her successors in government will now gain political capital and sympathy from her death. It is a double negative result if you ask me.

Thatcher did not just make "some mistakes" - she allowed and used her position in power to facilitate in the murder of millions of people in Cambodia via direct training of Khmer Rouge personnel by British Military personnel.

There's so much more negative to this woman, than positive .. such as it was her government that deregulated the banks to allow the banks to regulate themselves which resulted in our banks participation in the last global financial crisis .. but under Thatchers reign of self-serving philosophies - it actually caused two major financial collapses - one of which completely devalued the British Economy so the World Bank - now the IMF - revalued our currency with loans - so in reality our money is only worth something as long as those loans are paid back.

There was also Black Wednesday - another financial crisis handled under a Tory government.

Thatcher was bad for our country, but great for our comedians and comedy in general as it gave them a proper target to focus on. A proper anti-social and common people target.

She promised to line everyone's pockets with large amounts of money and her true legacy is that she ripped the heart and soul out of communities up and down this land.

re: ding dong!  jenn  8 Apr 13 5:04PM Thread Closed

As one Scottish comedian - Frankie Boyle - said earlier today

"'I'm not sure that Margaret Thatcher got many women into politics, in the same way that Myra Hindley didn't get a lot of women into hiking"

Link to Myra Hindley - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors_murders

re: ding dong!  jenn  8 Apr 13 5:08PM Thread Closed

> I always was under the impression that she was sweet TOO, Haxx.

It's such a shame how other countries media filters out everything but the over -sugared dregs at the bottom. :)

re: ding dong!  jenn  8 Apr 13 5:16PM Thread Closed

>  A kinder dictatorship might be nice.  maybe I mean anarchy.


Maybe you mean "Libertarianism"? :)

I am an egalitarian social libertarian with anarchist leanings.

There has to be an equal base from which we all start, but no limits on where we can go and who we can be.

re: ding dong!  plath  8 Apr 13 6:04PM Thread Closed

If you don't like this site, the moderators, the authors, then LEAVE.  Rather simple solution to your ongoing problem.  :)

re: ding dong!  Haxxen  8 Apr 13 6:29PM Thread Closed

Holy shit Jenn...

This is why I appreciate your input.  You are definitely a "head".  Still though, I would ask, why pull down a woman who did the best she could in the circumstances she had?  Yes Churchill was a bigot, but so was Malcolm X at 1st.  Still, it seems to me that some people like Malcolm, Churchill and Thatcher found their way beyond that.  I Used to hate Thatch because of her ties to Regan.  Should you hate me for my ties to cocaine even after I got above it?  Should I hate you for your "seeming" hatred of men" until I see you are above it?  When people end up doing good, I cannot help but appreciate them.

> Sorry to correct you, Haxx .. but Thatcher was in no way a "trail
> blazer" for women's rights. Not in any sense of those words combined
> did Thatcher further the cause of women in the UK.
>
> It could be said that the evolution of feminism allowed the
> circumstances to be right for a woman to be elected as Prime Minister,
> but Thatcher actually decreased the amount of women in her
> Parliamentary party and also cut funding for social groups involved in
> Domestic Abuse and Rape cases.....
>

re: ding dong!  Haxxen  8 Apr 13 6:33PM Thread Closed

I mean what I said.  A kinder Dictatorship.  "god" said "just do everything I tell you to do."  Wouldn't it be nice if he/she said "...And it harm none, do as you will."?

> >  A kinder dictatorship might be nice.  maybe I mean anarchy.
>
>
> Maybe you mean "Libertarianism"? :)
>
> I am an egalitarian social libertarian with anarchist leanings.
>
> There has to be an equal base from which we all start, but no limits
> on where we can go and who we can be.

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